| Vidhya: | You know, so much of the time people are going round and round in circles. |
| Ning: | It's amazing that we make any progress at all . . . |
| Vidhya: | Be careful of the word "progress" . . . often it amounts to little more than a rhetorical device to foster a given social agenda. |
| Ning: | I know. What some people regard as "progress" is often a euphemism for "social mutation". |
