| Satoru: | Gee. This is not the kind of lullaby I want to hear . . . |
| Ying: | Nor do most people. |
| Frida: | Why is it that the leaders of so many countries are out-of-touch with the wishes of the general public? |
| Satoru: | Well, I suppose we need to examine how people become leaders in the first place. Ambitious risk-takers who have an obsessive need to achieve certain outcomes tend to become leaders. |
| Frida: | Yeah, all too often the general population is disengaged. |
| Satoru: | That's precisely the way most leaders want them to be. |
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